Overtime with Jim Putman

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UnBelievable: Creation

In this episode of Real Life Overtime, we launch into the new series titled "Unbelievable," starting with a foundational discussion on the existence of God. Jim Putman, together with Lance Wigton, Communications Director at Real Life, dig deeper into the faith dynamics between naturalism and theism, wrestling with scientific, philosophical, and biblical perspectives. This conversation aims to equip Life Group leaders and believers with a strong foundation to thoughtfully engage with both evidence and faith, strengthening their walk and their witness.

Key Takeaways

Faith vs. Faith: Naturalism and Theism

• Naturalism (the belief in a closed, random universe) and Theism (belief in a supernatural Creator) both require faith.
• Faith is not blind; it's a reasoned trust based on evidence.

Four Scientific Evidences Pointing to God

1. The Universe Had a Beginning: The Hubble Telescope revealed that the universe is not eternal—it had a starting point, implying a cause beyond space, time, and matter.
2. The Fine-Tuning of the Universe: Specific conditions allow for life; an accident seems improbable.
3. The Origin of Life: Life emerging from non-living matter is not observable by science and remains a major challenge to naturalistic explanations.
4. The Emergence of Consciousness: Conscious awareness cannot be explained by purely materialistic processes.

Addressing Theistic Evolution and the Age of the Earth

• Some Christians try to blend evolutionary theory with biblical creation (theistic evolution).
• There are arguments for both young-earth (literal days) and old-earth (epochs of time) interpretations, but the critical issue is acknowledging God's direct involvement.

Scientific Challenges to Macroevolution

• Microevolution (small adaptations) is observable; macroevolution (species-to-species transitions) is not.
• The lack of transitional fossils and the concept of irreducible complexity pose major challenges to evolutionary theory.
• Dating methods (like radiocarbon dating) can be influenced by environmental factors, questioning their reliability.

 

God's Sovereign Power in Creation

• God could create a mature universe, just as Adam was created fully grown.
• God operates outside of time, space, and matter, making Him capable of instant creation that appears ancient to us.

Pain, Doubt, and Faith

• Many doubts about God's existence are rooted in personal pain and suffering, not scientific evidence.
• The story of the Prodigal Son illustrates God's patient love and desire for reconciliation, offering hope even in brokenness.

Discussion Questions

• What faith system are you relying on—naturalism or theism? Why?
• How do you respond to the idea that faith can be based on evidence?
• What challenges you most about the origins of life, the fine-tuning of the universe, or the existence of consciousness?
• How does understanding God's sovereignty change the way you view scientific discoveries or unanswered questions?
• How can painful experiences lead people toward or away from faith in God? How can we respond to these struggles?

Action Steps

• Reflect on Your Foundations: Examine whether your worldview is shaped more by cultural assumptions or by biblical truth.
• Engage with Apologetics: Start reading resources like I Don’t Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist by Frank Turek or The Case for a Creator by Lee Strobel to strengthen your confidence in God's existence.
• Prepare for Conversations: Equip yourself to have grace-filled discussions with those questioning faith, focusing on both evidence and the hope of the gospel.
• Encourage Someone Wrestling with Doubt: Reach out to someone struggling with belief, listen to their story, and gently point them to the evidence of God’s existence and love.

Closing Encouragement

God is not threatened by our questions or struggles. He invites us to seek, to ask, and to find that He is real, good, and powerful beyond our understanding. As we journey through this series, let's remember that our faith is rooted not in wishful thinking but in a God who has revealed Himself through creation, history, and most of all, through Jesus Christ. Stand firm in your faith, pursue understanding with humility, and live confidently knowing that the Creator of the universe calls you His own.

 

For more resources for this series go to: https://realliferesources.org/current-series/unbelievable/

The Wait of Glory: Saturday

Welcome back to the Real Life Overtime Podcast! In this deeply moving episode, Jim Putman, Pat Lessard, Jim Blazin, Gabe Cleave and Christian Putman revisit the final week of Jesus’ life—especially the tension and uncertainty of "Silent Saturday." The conversation centers around the confusing and painful moments the disciples faced, drawing parallels to our own seasons of waiting and silence. Each of the pastors shares personal stories and biblical insights that challenge and encourage us to keep trusting God even when He seems quiet.

 

Key Takeaways

1. Don’t Mistake Silence for Absence

• Silent seasons can feel like abandonment, but God is still present and active.
• "While you're waiting, God is working"—even when we can’t see it, He is shaping us and the situation.

2. God is Doing a Work In You, For You, and Through You

• Sometimes God delays action because He is transforming us inwardly.
• Like John Piper says: “God is always doing 10,000 things, and you may be aware of three.”

3. Waiting Exposes Our Trust Issues

• In the silence, we are often tempted to take control or doubt God’s goodness.
• These moments are invitations to deeper dependence and trust in God's character.

4. Suffering Is Not the Absence of God’s Love

• From the Garden of Gethsemane to the crucifixion, Jesus modeled how to suffer faithfully.
• Romans 8 reminds us that nothing can separate us from God’s love—not confusion, not persecution, not pain.

5. Biblical Characters Waited Too

• Abraham, David, Joseph—all waited through hardship before God's promises were fulfilled.
• Their stories teach us to trust God's timing and sovereignty.

6. We Need Each Other in the Waiting

• Community is essential: we carry one another’s burdens, remind each other of God’s past faithfulness, and speak truth into each other’s silence.

 

Discussion Questions

1. What “day” are you in right now—Thursday (confusion), Friday (tragedy), Saturday (silence), or Sunday (victory)?
2. How have you experienced God’s work during a waiting season?
3. In your silence, what lies has the enemy tried to plant, and how do you fight back with truth?
4. What are you currently praying for that God hasn’t answered yet? How are you responding in the wait?
5. How can you be a source of encouragement to someone else who is in a Silent Saturday season?

 

Action Steps

• Reflect: Take time this week to identify where you are in your spiritual journey. What does your “Saturday” look like?
• Pray Honestly: Like Habakkuk and David, bring your confusion and pain honestly before God.
• Encourage Someone: Share your story with someone else who might be in a difficult waiting season.
• Invite Others: Use the Easter season as an opportunity to invite someone to church or into conversation about faith.
• Trust God's Promises: Meditate on scriptures that remind you of God's faithfulness, even when He seems silent.

Closing Encouragement

No matter what part of the journey you’re on—celebration, confusion, heartbreak, or silence—God is at work. "Silent Saturday" reminds us that even in the most hopeless moments, resurrection is on the horizon. He is not absent. He is present, loving, and working for your good. Trust Him, walk with Him, and surround yourself with others who will help you stay the course. Sunday is coming.

 

 

Scripture References

• Luke 24 (The Road to Emmaus)
• Habakkuk 3
• Psalm 77, Psalm 34
• Romans 8
• 2 Peter 1
• 2 Corinthians 1
• Isaiah 40:31
• Jeremiah 29:11

The Wait of Glory: Friday

In this episode of the Real Life Overtime podcast, Pastor Jim Putman and campus pastors Craig Miles, Jim Blazon, and Gabe Cleave gather to explore the kickoff of the new sermon series, The Weight of Glory. As Easter approaches, the team delves into the deeper meanings behind the events of Holy Week, the importance of living with eternal perspective, and how the resurrection transforms every aspect of our lives. It’s a conversation filled with insight, vulnerability, and encouragement for both group leaders and individual listeners navigating life’s ups and downs.

Key Takeaways

1. The Dual Meaning of “Weight”

• The series title plays on both meanings of "weight"—the heaviness of suffering (W-E-I-G-H-T) and the act of waiting (W-A-I-T) for the glory to come.
• Life mirrors the journey of Holy Week: triumph, tragedy, silence, and ultimately resurrection.

2. We All Live Somewhere in the Story

• Whether in a high, a place of tragedy, confusion, or silence, everyone can find themselves in the journey from Palm Sunday to Easter.
• The experiences of Jesus and His disciples during this time are deeply relatable and still speak to our current realities.

3. The Resurrection Changes Everything

• Easter isn’t just a celebration—it’s a declaration of hope and transformation.
• The resurrection either changes nothing or everything. It brings the possibility of real change—freedom from fear, addiction, and hopelessness.

4. Suffering and Joy Can Coexist

• Drawing from 1 Peter, the team reflects on the tension of being both “exiles” and “chosen.”
• True joy is often found in and through suffering, rather than in its absence.

5. Don’t Miss the Mission in the Waiting

• While we wait for Jesus' return or for the full realization of glory, we’re called to mission: making disciples, inviting others, and pressing into community.
• The church isn’t just a place we visit—it’s the body we live and serve with daily.

 

Discussion Questions

1. Where do you currently find yourself in the Holy Week narrative—celebration, confusion, suffering, or waiting?
2. How does the resurrection change the way you view your present circumstances?
3. What prevents you from living with an eternal perspective during difficult seasons?
4. Have you ever seen God use your suffering to bring about joy or growth?
5. Who is God prompting you to invite this Easter? How might you step out in faith this week?

 

Action Steps

• Invite with Intentionality: Identify 1–3 people in your contacts to personally invite to Easter services or the Sean McDowell event.
• Live in Community: Stay connected with your group or community—especially in seasons of waiting or suffering.
• Practice Gratitude: Start each day this week by thanking God for both past faithfulness and future promises.
• Shift Perspective: Take time to reflect on how temporary struggles are shaping your eternal story.
• Celebrate Easter Personally: Amid the busyness, don’t miss what Easter means for you. Celebrate it as a believer with renewed gratitude and awe.

 

Closing Encouragement

As we walk through this Easter season, let’s remember that the resurrection isn’t just a moment in history—it’s the turning point of every believer’s life. Whether you’re in the highs or the lows, God’s story is still unfolding in you. Let this be the year where Easter isn’t just another event but a personal awakening. Live each day with eyes fixed on eternity, rooted in community, and filled with boldness to invite others into this life-changing journey. The resurrection changes everything—and it can change you.

 

Scripture References

• 1 Peter 1
• Romans 8
• 2 Corinthians 5
• John 14:27
• Hebrews 12:2
• Matthew 28:18-20
• Hebrews 3:12-13

5 Questions: Are We Done Yet?

This episode wraps up the “Five Questions” series by focusing on the home sphere, particularly the role of grandparents in the family’s discipleship mission. It challenges the idea that parenting ends at adulthood and explores how biological and spiritual families can form a powerful home team to raise mature disciples of Jesus.

Introduction

In this episode, Blake Whiteman, Jim Blazin, and host Jim Putman dive into the essential role grandparents and extended spiritual families play in discipling the next generation. Whether you're a first-generation Christian or grew up in the faith, this conversation provides encouragement and direction for anyone wondering, “Am I done yet?” when it comes to family and faith. The answer is a resounding “No”—because the mission is ongoing.

Key Takeaways

1. The Home Team: A Multi-Generational Mission

• The “home team” concept includes abiding in Christ, the biological family, and the church working together to disciple children.
• Grandparents and spiritual mentors are vital to supporting parents and modeling faith.

2. Redemption and New Starts

• Even if you “blew it” earlier in parenting, God allows for new beginnings.
• Repentance, humility, and intentional investment in current relationships can still make an eternal impact.

3. Spiritual and Biological Families Working Together

• Blake shared how his spiritual in-laws helped lead him to faith, which influenced his entire biological family.
• When church and home spheres overlap, children grow up deeply rooted in both.

4. Intentionality Over Time

• Grandparenting isn’t just about fun—it’s about creating moments that point kids to Jesus.
• From playtime to prayer, being present and purposeful makes a difference.

5. When Your Kids Parent Differently

• Approach with grace, not criticism. Encourage, uplift, and model godly behavior.
• Earn influence through support, not control.

6. God’s Mission Continues Through You

• The mission to raise mature disciples doesn’t end at age 18.
• As long as we live, we have a role in God’s redemptive plan for families.

 

Discussion Questions

1. What does your “home team” currently look like? Who are you partnering with spiritually and biologically?
2. How have you seen spiritual grandparents or mentors impact your family or others?
3. If you’re a grandparent, what role do you feel God is calling you to play now?
4. How can you support younger parents in your church or community?
5. What might need to change in your life so you can be more available or intentional with the next generation?

 

Action Steps

• Evaluate Your Legacy: Reflect on how you’ve influenced your children or grandchildren spiritually. What changes might God be inviting you to make now?
• Step Into a Support Role: Reach out to a young family in your church. Offer help, encouragement, or just be available.
• Be Present and Purposeful: Make time for meaningful moments—whether it’s building race tracks or going on walks, use them to speak life and faith into younger hearts.
• Join a Group or Serve: Don’t underestimate the impact of being involved in church ministries. Every act of service can change a family’s story.
• Start Where You Are: No matter your past, God can use you today. Apologize if needed, reconcile where you can, and move forward in grace.

 

Closing Encouragement

You’re not done—because God’s mission isn’t done. Whether you’re a grandparent, spiritual mentor, or part of a church family, your presence and intentionality matter deeply. The enemy wants to divide, distract, and destroy, but God’s design is for families and the church to work together to raise strong, rooted disciples. You have a place on the home team, and your legacy can point generations to Jesus.

Stay faithful, stay connected, and know that your efforts are not in vain. You are building a kingdom legacy—one conversation, prayer, and act of love at a time.

 

Scripture References

• Ephesians 6:10-18
• Deuteronomy 6:4-9
• Judges 2:10
• Psalm 145:4
• 2 Timothy 1:5
• Proverbs 17:6

 

5 Questions: What Does it Mean to be a Son or Daughter?

This episode continues the Real Life series on God's design for the home sphere, focusing on the biblical call to honor parents and raise children rooted in faith and purpose. The team unpacks Ephesians 5 and 6, diving into the complexities of parenting, childhood, and spiritual leadership within the home.

Introduction

Welcome back to the Real Life Overtime Podcast! This week, the sermon team unpacks one of the most heartfelt and practical themes in the home sphere—how children are called to honor and obey their parents, and how parents are called to raise children in the Lord. Through discussion, personal stories, and Biblical insight, this conversation challenges us to consider God’s design for family, authority, and discipleship. Whether you're a parent, grandparent, adult child, or spiritual mentor, this episode speaks deeply into the roles we play and the faith we live out at home.

Key Takeaways

1. God’s Order in Scripture Matters
   Ephesians moves from identity in Christ (chapters 1–3), to spiritual family in the church (chapters 4–5), then to the home. This flow reminds us that discipleship in the home grows out of an abiding relationship with Jesus and His Church.
2. Obedience and Honor—Two Distinct Stages
   Children are called to obey their parents when young, and to honor them as adults. Honoring might look different across seasons of life, especially when dealing with aging or difficult parents.
3. Faith Like a Child
   Christian highlighted how our faith should mirror a child’s trust in a good father. It's not about blind obedience but about trusting a God who is present and trustworthy, even in rough terrain.
4. Parenting is Spiritual Training for War
   Parents aren’t meant to clear every obstacle for their kids, but to prepare them for life’s spiritual battles. This involves discipline, correction, love, and modeling faith in action.
5. The Struggle of the Father Wound
   Many wrestle with distorted views of God due to broken relationships with earthly parents. The episode emphasizes the healing that comes through spiritual family and a renewed identity in Christ.
6. Honoring Parents Through the End
   Jim vulnerably shared about losing both parents this year, and the beauty of honoring them—even when it wasn’t easy. Forgiveness, encouragement, and speaking value were key to helping them finish well.
7. Building the Right Support Before the Storm
   Don’t wait until the trial hits to find godly counsel and community. Spiritual battle is inevitable—anchor yourself in relationships that point you back to truth and help you endure.

 

Discussion Questions

1. As a child or adult child, what does honoring your parents look like today?
2. Have you experienced the impact of a father (or parental) wound? How has it affected your view of God?
3. Parents: Are you raising your children for success in the world—or training them for spiritual battle?
4. What would it mean to trust God with a childlike faith in the season you're in now?
5. What does “submission out of reverence for Christ” (Ephesians 5:21) look like in your home?

 

Action Steps

• Evaluate your current posture: Are you obeying or honoring your parents? Are you parenting with God’s design in mind?
• Forgive where needed: Ask God to help you release bitterness toward your parents or children and begin to speak value and truth.
• Encourage your parents: Even if they weren’t perfect, find ways to express appreciation or help them finish well.
• Strengthen your faith community: Build intentional relationships that will stand with you when trials come.
• Lead with spiritual intentionality: Whether you're a parent or mentor, take seriously the call to disciple and equip the next generation.

 

Closing Encouragement

We’re all in different stages of life—some parenting, some being parented, and some navigating both. But no matter where we are, God’s design for the home invites us to live out our faith with honor, humility, and hope. Even when it's messy or painful, He is faithful. Trust in the Father who walks with you, trains you, and will never leave you. Let’s continue to raise up disciples and finish the race well—together.

Scripture References

• Ephesians 5:21–6:4
• Deuteronomy 5:16
• 1 Timothy 5:1–2
• Proverbs (various)
• Matthew 5:46–47
• John 14:27

 

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For resources specific to this series go to: https://realliferesources.org/current-series/5-questions/

5 Questions: What Do We Do With Them Now? Parenting

5 Questions: What Do We Do With Them Now? Parenting

Introduction

In this episode of the Overtime Podcast, we continue our discussion from the Home Sphere series, tackling the question: What do I do with them now? Parenting is a journey filled with different seasons, challenges, and blessings. Our speakers dive into the biblical call to raise godly offspring and share practical insights on how to be present, intentional, and Christlike in our parenting. Whether you’re raising little ones, teenagers, or even mentoring young believers in the faith, this episode is packed with wisdom and encouragement.

 

Key Takeaways

1. The Biblical Call to Raise Godly Offspring

• Malachi 2 emphasizes that God’s desire for marriage is to produce godly offspring.
• As Christian parents, we must be intentional in shaping our children’s faith.
• Three key principles for parenting:
  • Be present.
  • Be intentional.
  • Be like Jesus.

2. Children as Arrows in the Spiritual Battle

• Psalm 127 describes children as arrows in the hands of a warrior.
• Parents are called to shape and equip their children to be spiritual warriors.
• Deuteronomy 6 provides a framework:
  • Love God with your whole being.
  • Teach your children about God’s Word and how He has worked in your life.
  • Live out your faith consistently.

3. The Importance of Loving Discipline

• Ephesians 6:4 warns against exasperating children but calls for training them in the Lord.
• Discipline should be motivated by love, just as God disciplines us.
• Every child is different and requires unique guidance and correction.

4. The Role of Marriage in Parenting

• Prioritizing marriage strengthens the foundation of parenting.
• A strong, Christ-centered marriage models love and security for children.
• The best way to love your children is to love your spouse well.

5. Trusting God with the Outcome

• Parents are responsible for their influence but not for their children's ultimate choices.
• Many parents struggle with regret, but God is a redeemer who can restore brokenness.
• Entrusting our children to God is an act of faith, knowing He loves them even more than we do.

6. Parenting in the Context of the Church

• Spiritual parenting extends beyond biological children—discipleship plays a key role.
• The church community provides support for single parents, step-parents, and those without children.
• Paul and Timothy’s relationship demonstrates how spiritual mentors can step into the gap.

 

Discussion Questions

1. How does Malachi 2 shape your understanding of parenting as a spiritual calling?
2. What are some practical ways you can be more present and intentional with your children?
3. In what ways do you see parenting as a form of spiritual warfare?
4. How can you ensure your discipline reflects God’s love rather than frustration or anger?
5. If you are struggling with regrets as a parent, how can you bring those before God and find hope?
6. How can the church community support those who are parenting in challenging circumstances?
7. What steps can you take to entrust your children to God while still fulfilling your role as a parent?

 

Action Steps

• Evaluate Your Parenting Approach – Are you being present, intentional, and Christlike? Identify one area to improve.
• Prioritize Your Marriage – If you’re married, invest in strengthening your relationship as a foundation for your family.
• Live Out Your Faith – Be transparent with your children about your walk with Christ, modeling repentance and dependence on God.
• Pray for Your Children – Lift them up daily, trusting God with their hearts and futures.
• Seek Support and Mentorship – Whether you need guidance or can mentor someone else, engage with your church community for wisdom and encouragement.
• Encourage Other Parents – Parenting is hard; find ways to support and speak life into fellow parents in your circle.

 

Closing Encouragement

Parenting is one of the greatest joys and challenges of life, but you are not alone in this journey. God has entrusted you with a sacred calling, and He will equip you for the task. Whether you are a parent, grandparent, mentor, or friend, your influence matters. Stand firm in your faith, lead with love, and trust God with the outcome.

Remember, even when we fall short, God’s grace is greater. He is the redeemer of all things, including our parenting. Keep pressing on, knowing that He is faithful to complete the good work He has begun in you and your children.

Thank you for joining us on this episode of the Overtime Podcast! Stay encouraged, stay faithful, and we’ll see you next time.

 

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5 Questions: Marriage - How Two Become One

Introduction

In this episode of Real Life Overtime, we dive deeper into the weekend’s message about marriage as part of The Five Questions series. This conversation explores God’s design for marriage, how two become one, and what it means to live in a covenantal relationship rather than a contractual one. The discussion also touches on practical challenges like divorce, infidelity, and abuse, offering biblical wisdom on navigating these complex issues. Whether you're married, engaged, or single, this episode provides a rich foundation for understanding marriage through the lens of Scripture.

Key Takeaways

God’s Design for Marriage

• Marriage is a reflection of God’s covenant with His people, established in Genesis 2 and reaffirmed by Jesus in Matthew 19 and Ephesians 5.
• The goal of marriage is oneness—spiritually, emotionally, and physically—where two individuals become one.
• Unlike modern cultural views of marriage, which can be fluid and based on personal preference, biblical marriage is a lifelong covenant between a man, a woman, and God.

Covenantal vs. Contractual Marriage

• A contractual marriage is based on mutual distrust: “I will do my part as long as you do yours.”
• A covenantal marriage is based on mutual commitment: “I am in this no matter what.”
• Jesus modeled covenantal love—He remained committed to His people even when they failed Him.

Challenges in Marriage: Divorce, Infidelity, and Abuse

• Divorce: God’s desire is for marriage to be permanent, but Scripture acknowledges that brokenness sometimes leads to separation. Malachi 2:16 speaks to God’s heart on this matter, and Matthew 19 addresses the complexity of divorce.
• Infidelity: Betrayal in marriage is deeply painful, yet God’s grace and restoration are possible. Healing requires biblical counsel, repentance, and a willingness to rebuild trust.
• Abuse: Abuse is never acceptable in marriage. Those experiencing abuse should seek wise, biblical counsel and ensure their safety. Wise boundaries are essential, and healing comes through godly guidance and support.

Practical Wisdom for Dating and Engagement

• Don’t look for a spouse to “complete” you—only Christ can do that (Philippians 1:6).
• Prioritize finding someone who shares a biblical view of marriage and faith (2 Corinthians 6:14).
• Pre-marital counseling is invaluable for addressing expectations, communication, and family background.
• Focus on becoming the right person instead of just finding the right person.

Encouragement for Life Group Leaders

• Be a good listener—some couples in your group may be facing real struggles.
• Avoid trying to fix marriages in a single conversation—point them to biblical counsel and support.
• Pray before and after discussions, asking for God’s wisdom and grace.
• Encourage accountability and ongoing discipleship—marriage requires lifelong growth.

Discussion Questions

1. What does it mean for marriage to be a covenant rather than a contract?
2. How does your view of marriage align with God’s design in Genesis 2 and Matthew 19?
3. If you are married, in what ways can you cultivate oneness in your relationship?
4. How should the church support those who are struggling in their marriage?
5. For those who are dating or engaged, what biblical principles should guide their relationship?

Action Steps for This Week

• Reflect on your foundation: Is your marriage built on biblical principles or personal expectations?
• Seek biblical counsel: If you're struggling in marriage, don’t navigate it alone. Find a pastor or mentor to walk with you.
• Pray for your spouse: Instead of focusing on what they need to change, ask God how you can love them better.
• Encourage a young couple: If you’ve been married for a while, invest in those who are preparing for marriage.
• Commit to lifelong growth: Whether married or single, continue learning about God’s design for relationships.

Closing Encouragement

Marriage is one of the most beautiful and sacred relationships God has given us, but it’s also one of the most challenged. The enemy seeks to divide what God has joined together, but through Christ, we have the power to fight for our marriages. Whether you are married, preparing for marriage, or supporting those who are, remember that God’s grace is sufficient. Keep seeking His wisdom, leaning into community, and trusting that His plan is good.

Scripture References

• Genesis 2:18-25
• Matthew 19:3-9
• Ephesians 5:22-33
• Malachi 2:16
• 1 Corinthians 13:4-7
• Philippians 1:6
• 2 Corinthians 6:14

We’re so glad you joined us for this episode of Real Life Overtime. Next week, we’ll be tackling another important question—how do we disciple our children? See you then!

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